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Nelson Cruz's play was worse than Bill Buckner's error
























David Freese hit a walk off, game winning World Series tying home run last night... and it wasn't even his most dramatic hit of the night. Not by a LONG shot.

He got his homer off of Mark Lowe... a guy who wasn't even on the playoff roster for the Division Series and ALCS. And the game was tied.

In the 9th he faced an All Star closer in Neftali Feliz and was down to the last strike before elimination.

And his drive to right field looked like it was well hit but not good enough.

Admit it, you thought the World Series was over. Nelson Cruz looked like he was slowing up with a beat on the ball. And up he leaped.

And he didn't have it.

He jumped up too soon, like he didn't know where the wall was.
The ball sailed over his head and off the wall. The two runs scored.

So why is that worse than the Buckner play?
Unlike Bill Buckner's error, this play COULD have won the World Series!
Buckner's error ended Game 6 of the 1986 World Series... but the game was tied on the Wild Pitch.

If Cruz caught the ball (and we ALL thought he was about to) then that would have been it.
The Texas Rangers would have been the World Champs.

Who knows how this series will unfold tonight?
Who knows if there will be another highlight that will overshadow last night's game. (Think that's not possible? Remember how 1991 and 2001 had Game 7 finales that become the main highlight?)

A Rangers win tonight would make his play a forgotten footnote (like the wild pitch that tied Game 6 of the 1986 World Series.)

If they don't, then you can RIGHTLY say they would have won the World Series if he made that catch.





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New Sully Baseball Video "It Wasn't Bill Buckner's Fault"















Maybe it is appropriate that I bring up the Bill Buckner play the day after the Red Sox did the Great Faceplant of 2011.

In the latest Sully Baseball video, I am starting a new series.
"Baseball Myths and Facts." And it turns out there are so many of them that I will do a few videos on this topic.

I tackle the Buckner error first because even really good baseball people get that one wrong.

Enjoy the video.
And as always, you can see all the videos at my ShortForm TV page.



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Nominate Bill Buckner for an Emmy!!!

















Who knew that Bill Buckner could keep up with Larry David on Curb Your Enthusiasm?!

He was terrific... poking fun at himself, making fun of Michael Jordan's Hitler mustache, showing his incredible class and withstanding Susie Essman screaming at him (probably worse than any abuse he got from Boston fans.)

And his redemption at the end of the show was wonderful. I won't spoil it. Watch the show, if for no other reason than seeing Bill Buckner at a minyan.

BUT... as I said many times in my life and on this blog... Bill Buckner's error in the 1986 World Series is THE MOST OVERRATED PLAY IN THE HISTORY OF AMERICAN SPORTS!!!

The myth is that if he made the play, the Red Sox would have won the World Series.
FALSE! The game was tied after the Wild Pitch by Bob Stanley.

And the other part of the myth is that the Mets won the World Series after he made the error.
FALSE! The play ended Game 6. There was a Game 7.

But the oversimplification of that bizarre inning led to Bill Buckner taking the brunt for the series because of a play that could not have won the Series for the Red Sox nor did it clinch it for the Mets.

I am glad Red Sox fans in 1990 gave Bill Buckner a standing ovation when he returned to the team.

I am glad Red Sox fans gave him a standing ovation in 2008 when he returned.

And I am glad Buckner is such a cool guy that he would poke fun at himself with Larry David.

Now put his myth to rest. He was a wonderful player (and a former batting champ) who got way too much crap.

He may not have ever earned a World Series ring. But he is eligible the Emmy for Best Guest Performance by an Actor in a Comedy Series!

I hope he gets it!




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Mid-1980s playoff baseball had no equal - My Latest For The Hardball Times


In my latest article for The Hardball Times I make the case that the 1980s had the greatest stretch of post season baseball ever.

October baseball never was better than between 1985 and 1988 and year in and year out we not only had exciting games but also a few iconic moments that became legendary.

The 1980s might have been a maligned decade for baseball, but the Octobers were sublime… from “Go crazy folks” to “I don’t believe what I just saw.”

Read the article HERE.



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Sully Baseball Honors... The 1981 Houston Astros Future Stars

When I was a kid collecting Topps cards, I used to love the Future Stars card.

I always trusted the Future Card. Why would Topps lie to me? The players on the card were ALL destined for stardom.

Granted, they didn't look 100% reliable when they picked players like Mike O'Berry and Keith MacWorther for future Red Sox stardom... but hey! Everyone can make a bad pick from time to time.

Now I stumbled across this 1981 Topps card of the Astros Future Stars. While none of them became a true star, each name on this card is worth noting for one reason or another.


DANNY HEEP

The native Texan played for 13 seasons in the bigs, only playing more than 100 games a season in two of them.

He was a platoon player and left handed pinch hitter who in his career saw some of the great moments of 1980s baseball in uniform.

He played for the Astros in the 1980 NLCS against the Phillies, which was arguably the greatest best of 5 series in baseball history.

As a member of the 1986 Mets, he was a pinch hitter in the amazing 16 inning marathon NLCS Game 6 against his former team, the Astros.

In the famous Game 6 of the 1986 World Series, he came up as a pinch hitter again tying the game as a run scored on his fifth inning double play.

In 1988, he played for the Dodgers against his former Mets teammates in the NLCS. In the epic momentum shifting Game 4, Heep once again came up as a pinch hitter.

In the World Series Game 1 that year, the "Kirk Gibson Game", Heep once again came up as a pinch hitter.

Later he played for the 1990 AL East Champion Red Sox and played for the 1991 Braves, but was cut before they won the NL Pennant.

I guess asking him to be on ANOTHER miracle pennant winner would have been too much to ask. But for a part time pinch hitter, four trips to the post season and two World Series rings and playing in so many memorable games isn't anything to sneeze at.


ALAN KNICELY

Astros fans were patient with Knicely. He was an Astros Future Star in 1980 as well. He played 7 games with the Astros in 1979, 1 in 1980 and 3 in 1981. So later when he had a HIS OWN baseball card it looked impressive like he played 3 seasons between 79 and 81 instead of just 11 games.

In 1981, he managed to hit 2 homers in those 3 games... both against the eventual World Champion Dodgers. (One off of Bob Welch and one was an 8th inning game tying shot off of Dave Goltz.)

Maybe the Astros should have had him on their 1981 Divisional Series roster against the Dodgers that year.

BOBBY SPROWL

Red Sox fans might be amused to see Sprowl picked as a future star for 1981. Turn the clocks back to 1978 and Don Zimmer must have thought he was a budding star right then and there.

In a critical game on September 10th, 1978 between the Red Sox and Yankees, Boston was trying to end a crippling losing streak. The Yankees were trying to sweep a 4 game series in Fenway and pull into a tie with Boston.

Who should Don Zimmer start? Veteran Yankee killer Bill Lee? Or 22 rookie Sprowl who had one big league start under his belt?

Zimmer went with Sprowl. In Spaceman, I asked "Why in the name of Yahweh was Bobby Sprowl pitching in a pennant race?" He was pitching because Zimmer let his pride get in the way. He was told that Sprowl had ice water in his veins.

That might have been true, but throwing him into that game against the defending champs was simply cruel.

Sprowl didn't last an inning. Bill Lee came out of the bullpen and threw 2 1/3 shutout innings.

Sprowl never won a game that year.
He never EVER won a game in the bigs.

Topps optimistically made him a future star based on his 10-11 season for Tuscon in 1980.
Alas it never was to be.

Not in Boston nor in Houston.


So there you have it... one guy was a veteran of many post seasons... one should have been a post season weapon... and the other was thrown into the deep end too soon.

Stars?
Maybe not... but worth a Sully Baseball salute.


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This series is OVER! (So were these)



































A team that gave their fans generations of frustrations and a heart stopping playoff stormed into the World Series, out slugged the favored opposition one day, out pitched them the next and beat the other team's marquee ace (who was gone after 5.)



Now they knew they had their two aces available fully rested for Games 5 and 6. Just split the next two and they'd be in the drivers seat for the World Championship.



The title was all but assured... a great moment for fans who already felt they had waited enough after years of near misses.



Am I talking about the 2010 World Series and Giants fans?

Or am I talking about the 1986 World Series and my beloved Red Sox?



That's what happened when the Red Sox took the first two games from the Mets (including battering Doc Gooden) and went back to Fenway with the Mets reeling.



And we all know what happened after that.



I've seen many series in my life, both best of 5 and best of 7, that looked 100 done after 2 games. Where one team just looked over matched and dead from the neck up... only to win the damn thing.


I've seen my Red Sox win two Best of 5 series where they dropped the first two and didn't have their best pitcher available for games 3 and 4. In 1999 when they lost the first 2 to Cleveland and in 2003 when they dropped the first 2 to the A's, the Sox looked like a defeated crew.


And things turned around (and the Indians and A's started making mistakes) and before you can say Trot Nixon homer, the Red Sox won.


The 1982 Brewers were battered and injured against an Angel team that boasted 4 former MVPs in their lineup and somehow pulled it off.


The 1985 Royals looked overmatched by both the Blue Jays and Cardinals... yet with some help from Don Denkinger won the whole thing.


The 1988 Dodgers looked overmatched by the Mets even though they split the first 2 games. The bullpen blew 2 Hershiser starts and the NLCS looked like a formality. Yet they won.


Remember how the Yankees just looked so overwhelmed by Atlanta at HOME in 1996? And when they took a 6-0 lead in Game 4, I remember thinking "Man, this Yankee team is just embarrassing themselves."


Remember how it ended... the Yankees won in 6.


A lot can happen in 2 games. Sanchez and Bumgarner could fall on their faces.
The Rangers bats can wake up.


People didn't think the Giants had 20 runs in them for the whole series... can they keep this offense up?


I think the Giants are in great shape. They need 2 more wins and will get 1 more Lincecum start and 1 more Cain start.


But things can turn fast.
Just ask the 1986 Boston Red Sox.

Getting ready for kick off... thinking about the 1986 World Series













OF COURSE I am thinking about the 1986 World Series... what else would I be thinking about as the games deciding the Super Bowl berths are about to be played.

But I am not thinking about it for the reasons that you would think.

In the past, I lamented 1986 as the ultimate "what might have been."
But 2004 and 2007 put that to rest.

Then I lamented the great flop of 1986 when I thought of Jim Rice's candidacy for the Hall of Fame. Had the Red Sox won in 1986, I argued, Rice would have been in the Hall of Fame on the first ballot. He didn't have Ted's stats or Yaz's stats... but the Sox would have won when Rice was captain.

Rice's election last year put that to rest.

But today's Jets game got me thinking about that fateful 10th inning.
The Mets and Jets are very similar franchises... and not just because their names rhyme.

They are second banana franchises in their own cities. The Yankees own the baseball scene and the Giants have always had a bigger following.

They both have had their share of heart break and dysfunction over the years.

Both have fan bases that have listened to Yankee fans and Giant fans crow about their more recent titles. The Yankees with their 27 titles and the Giants with Super Bowl titles in the 1980s, 1990s and 2000s.

And of course they each had, over a period of 9 months in 1969, a startling championship that defined their franchise to this very day.

Both seemed beyond the realm of possibility... the AFL was supposed to be inferior to the NFL and the Super Bowl had been a lackluster joke in its first two games.

And of course the Mets averaged a 56-106 record for each of its first seven seasons.

Both teams rode the back of a brash new superstar... Broadway Joe predicting the outcome by the poolside...

Tom Terrific mowing down NL batters left and right heading into the Series.


And oddly, they both beat heavily favored teams that played in Baltimore.

Now there is one huge difference between the franchises:

The Jets have never won since. The Mets have... one other time.

The Mets have that, for them, Amazin' moment of coming back from 2 runs down, 2 outs, nobody on in the 10th that was so beautifully recreated in this video game.

Now just imagine if the Mets never won that game. (And NO, I am not going to say "Imagine if Buckner made that play. The game was already tied. Buckner's error prevented the game from going into the 10th. It neither clinched the World Series for the Met nor would have clinched the World Series for the Red Sox... please tattoo that on your wrist.)

Imagine if Gary Carter made an out... or Kevin Mitchell made an out... or Schraldi got that third strike on Ray Knight... or Mookie Wilson swung and missed on one of his 2 strike foul balls against Bob Stanley.

Trust me, I did every day of my life between October 1986 to October 2004.

But I always thought of the Red Sox side... for the Mets, they would still be pining for 1969.

1986 would have been thrown on the scrap pile of frustrations along with the end of the 1973 World Series, the trade of Seaver, the Scioscia homer in 1988, the bases loaded walk to end the 1999 NLCS, losing to the Yankees in the 2000 World Series, the called third on Beltran, the great collapse of 2007, the almost as great collapse of 2008...

All the while clinging to their lone moment of glory in 1969.

Kind of like the Jets do now, still waiting for that second great highlight to go with Joe Willy Namath running off the field, finger in the air.






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Eric Hinske and Don Baylor





















Eric Hinske managed to see action this post season, thus making his potential inclusion in a trivia question concrete.

The trivia question that I posted at the beginning of the World Series was "Who is the only living person with a World Series ring as a player for both the Yankees and Red Sox?"

As of this writing, it remains Ramiro Mendoza all by his lonesome (who played in the 1998 and 1999 World Series for the Yankees and played in the 2004 post season with the Red Sox.)

Now Hinske rode the pine in the Minnesota series and was off of the ALCS roster, so I wondered if he didn't PLAY in the postseason for this year's Yankees, should he be included with Mendoza and Johnny Damon should the Yankees win.

The point is moot. He drew a walk last night and scored.

Now I hope he NEVER becomes part of that trivia question because I want the Phillies to somehow pull this one out.

But Hey! Hinske! You are already in the world of trivia... and I am not talking about how you struck out to end the 2008 World Series.

You just played in your third straight World Series with three different teams!

Hinske was a member of the 2007 World Champion Red Sox...
He was on the 2008 AL Champion Rays...
And now the 2009 Yankees.

Only one other person has done that before and it is no dishonor to be mentioned in his company!


Don Baylor, best known as an MVP for the Angels, played in the 1986 World Series for my beloved Red Sox...

Then he played in the 1987 World Series on the winning side with the Twins.

Then he was a pinch hitter and sometimes DH in the 1988 World Series.

Baylor was the emotional leader of the '86 Red Sox, establishing a kangaroo court and turning the clubhouse from a 24 player, 24 cab unit to a team that came within one strike of immortality in New England.

Baylor's contributed big time to the Twins stunning World Series run after being picked up from the Red Sox in August.

His pinch hit in Game 1 of the 1987 ALCS put the Twins up in the 8th and was the Game Winning RBI.

And in Game 6 of the 1987 World Series, with the Twins losing 5-2 in the 5th and facing elimination, Baylor hit a game tying homer off of John Tudor and the Twins would eventually win.

Baylor joined the A's mainly to give them some veteran leadership (along with another former MVP Dave Parker.) He had a disappointing season. He did drive in the final run of the 1988 ALCS that helped sink his former Red Sox teammates. His last appearance in the big leagues was a pinch hitting appearance in Game 2 of the 1988 World Series where he struck out against Orel Hershiser.

For years he was the only person to appear in three straight World Series for three different franchises.

He has company now with Hinske.

Now let's hope Hinske doesn't join Mendoza as well.



Hey Red Sox fans... let's not get carried away

























Don't get me wrong... yesterday sucked.

It didn't just suck. It SUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKED!

One strike from winning the game, putting Lester on the hill... and a Game 4 win would send the game back to Anaheim (sorry Angels, that's where you play) with the pressure on THEIR shoulders.

And instead we get a monumental collapse.

But some Sox fans are getting carried away.

Bob Ryan said this was the worst Red Sox post season loss since 1986.

Really?

It's not even the worst Red Sox post season loss in the last 12 months!!!

Game 7 of last year's ALCS was MUCH worse!

Come on... the Red Sox had the tying runs on base with nobody out in the 8th... heart of the line up coming up... just a few days removed from the mind boggling Game 5 come back... a trip to the World Series on the line... and they got a goose egg.

I'll think of J. D. Drew striking out against David Price a hell of a lot more than the Angels rallying against Papelbon.

Last year was a chance to make it back to back pennants... have a great shot to repeat as World Champs and maybe have the word dynasty mentioned.

Instead we got a World Series opening in the Trop!

This year? Holding off a Division Series sweep.

Not as much on the line.
And how quickly we forgot the devastation that was 2003!

Lest we forget the Sox had a 5-2 lead in the 8th inning... 1 out and nobody on.

The Yankee dragon was about to be slain by a gritty and lovable bunch.

Plus we all knew that the Yankees for what ever reason couldn't hit Embree, Timlin nor Williamson... and if Pedro let up a hit, Grady would have those three guys to record 5 outs.

And then the most agonizing inning since the 10th of Game 6 in 1986 happened.

We replayed that inning, batter by batter until Posada's little bloop tied the game... and a few innings later when Aaron Boone ended it.

In some ways that was WORSE than Game 6 in 1986.

We had felt we couldn't be burnt again after that... and then let us feel hope as the outs piled up.

And when the ball rolled through Buckner's legs, not only was the game already tied, but there was a Game 7 on the horizon.

When Boone's homer landed... that was it. End of season. End of hope. Many of us wondered if we should just stop rooting for the team.

It was time to buy a copy of Noose Making For Dummies.

A little less devastating than trying to prevent a Division Series sweep.

So folks, it hurt yesterday. But it doesn't carry the weight of "Will we ever see a World Series title in our life times?"

It doesn't have the "will we EVER beat the Yankees" question hanging over it.

Nor does it have the "I wanted to see a Dynasty!" possibility.

It was quite simply "I hope we don't get swept by a better team in the Division Series" situation.

Let's not go nuts folks.

(We wouldn't want Red Sox fans to be irrational!!!)



A World Series fact I bet you didn't know

I was driving the other day doing what i do best... thinking about random baseball stuff.

And in my wandering mind I stumbled across a little factoid that surprised me.

Two expansion franchises have never met each other in the World Series.

In every World Series there has been at least one franchise that existed back in 1903 (the year of the first series.)

Think about it for a second...

Since 1961 there have been 14 new franchises added to Major League Baseball.

1961 gave us the Angels (whether they are from Los Angeles, California, Anaheim or Los Angeles of Anaheim) and the new Washington Senators (now the Texas Rangers.)

1962 gave us the Houston Colt .45s (now the Astros) and the Mets.

1969 was the beginning of the Kansas City Royals and the Seattle Pilots (now the Milwaukee Brewers.) Also that year was the debut of the San Diego Padres and the Montreal Expos (now the Washington Nationals.)

1977 marked the debut of the Toronto Blue Jays and the Seattle Mariners.

1993 the NL expanded to form the Florida Marlins and Colorado Rockies.

And the last expansion was 1998 with the Tampa Bay Rays and the Arizona Diamondbacks.

Now the Rangers, the Nationals and the Mariners have never played in a World Series.

The first ever expansion team to win a pennant was the 1969 Mets and they played the Orioles... who began as the Milwaukee Brewers and became the St. Louis Browns.

In 1973 the Mets played the A's... who were in Oakland but were a team in 1903.

The other two Mets pennants (1986 and 2000) were against the Red Sox and Yankees.

The next expansion franchise to win a pennant was the Royals. They played the Phillies in 1980 and the Cardinals in 1985.

The Brewers (formerly the Pilots) played the Cardinals in 1982.

The Padres played the Tigers in 1984 and the Yankees in 1998.

The Blue Jays played the Braves in 1992 and the Phillies in 1993.

The Marlins beat the Indians in 1997 and the Yankees in 2003.

The Diamondbacks beat the Yankees in 2001.

The Angels beat the Giants (San Francisco by way of New York) in 2002.

The Astros lone pennant was a loss to the White Sox in 2005.

The Rockies played the Red Sox in 2007.

The Rays played the Phillies in 2008.

There it is... no two expansion teams have ever faced off.

Oh there have been close calls.

The 1980 Astros had the pennant winning run in scoring position in the NLCS which would have clinched a Houston/Kansas City World Series.

The 1986 Angels were one strike away, a sacrifice fly away and a Gary Pettis near home run away from meeting the Mets in the World Series.

What does this mean?
What is the significance? 

Well if the Angels play the Rockies in the World Series... it will be unique. (Not that it will get good ratings.)

And if I am forced to have this little nugget in my head... then by God you will have it too!

Think Big! with the 1987 Mets - the 1980s were a different time


Earlier I posted "Baseball Boogie" where the 1986 Dodgers danced in pastel colors and tight white pants on their way to an 89 loss season.

The 1980s, the era of baseball that I grew up in, was a strange era indeed.

And thanks to my dear friend and frequent collaborator, Patrick Gallo, I have discovered the latest in the disturbing trend of sports videos featuring 1980s sports stars.

This is Think Big! and it makes The Super Bowl Shuffle look like The Godfather by comparison.

Let's take a closer look at this monstrosity and maybe it will explain how an outrageously talented team like the 1987 Mets couldn't make it back to the World Series.




Thoughts about Part 1:

- Why is the opening sequence so silent and titles over black? Were they trying to emulate the opening titles of Citizen Kane?

- Shelton Leigh Palmer... you've done better.

- I love how ominous the stats for Gary Carter, Mookie Wilson and Roger McDowell scroll across the screen. I think this is how 2010 opened.

- The actor playing the scientist I guess was told to over compensate for Mookie Wilson, Gary Carter and Roger McDowell's lack of acting ability. Eddie Deezen would tell this guy to "Bring it back."

- Why is there a computer on the on deck circle?

- That whole opening scene was a build up for an air guitar sequence? And why air guitaring with baseball bats?

- I bet they shot about 30 minutes of improvisation with dancing and air guitaring with baseball bats. That poor poor editor.

- The lyric "Working Together Is That Name Of The Game" is wonderful for the 1987 team whose off the field strife kept them from winning the division and allowing an inferior and injured Cardinals team to sneak into the playoffs and World Series.

- Who the hell are these kids playing Monopoly? Am I watching a different horribly produced 1980s video?

- Holy Crap! Does that kid have a Watchmen pin on? Check out 2:45. He has the blood stained smiley face pin. I guess this kid enjoys taunting his sister at Monopoly, following the Mets and reading the works of Alan Moore.

- "What are you? Jesse James?" Really Shelton Leigh Palmer? That's the best line you could come with?

- The cocky black kid and the fat potentially Jewish kid call up to taunt our heroes. I guess they are our heroes. All I know about them is they are obnoxious kids who taunt each other playing Monopoly. A Clockwork Orange had more likable characters.

- 3:36! What the? You can't just cut to a cartoon robot baseball player and cut away! Seriously, I thought I had a stroke for a moment.

- I think the two computer baseball obsessed kids now work in the Oakland A's front office.

- What kids had modems in their room in 1987? By the way, the phone on the modem is still the internet hook up of choice at Kinkos.

- What the hell is happening? Why don't the two obnoxious Monopoly playing kids just make players who are 100% like the obnoxious computer geeks?

- Is the "We're Perfect" song available on iTunes?

- Isn't the whole "Megabats" team, all artificially pumped up, a wonderful metaphor for what baseball was about to turn into during the 1990s with 'roids? Maybe those two kids DO work in the A's front office!!!

- It's strange that they have Mookie Wilson, Gary Carter and Roger McDowell's picture by their computer as if they are family members.

- So let me get this straight... they can pick any player from any era EVER and they pick the Mets platoon centerfielder, the Mets set up man and Gary Carter?

- I am sure the original script had Doc Gooden, Darryl Strawberry and Keith Hernandez. Doc and Darryl were probably out looking for cocaine and if Hernandez wasn't joining them, he was hitting on Elaine Benes.

- OK, we are back to Shea Stadium. Mookie's delivery of the line "I'm not going to the minors, the food is terrible" is by far the best moment of this video. I have a feeling there won't be a second best moment.

- Who exactly is this video made for? No adult would enjoy this and it is paced slower than a Jim Jarmusch film.

- Why the fish eye lens and the Flash Gordon sound effects when Mookie, Gary and McDowell show up?

- OK, are they the scientists kids? Was he 12 when he had them? We are 7:04 into this video and I still don't understand the premise.

- How could they be losing with great players? Well, maybe they should watch the 1987 Mets to find out!

- "Who is pitching Pee Wee Herman?" Gary Carter's Pee Wee Herman laugh should make every single Mets fan die a little inside.

- Oh Christ do we NEED to see the "We're perfect" montage again? I guess it is better with the insanely awkward reaction shots.

- The obnoxious Watchmen fan called the overacting scientist "Dad." OK, at 8:00 we've established the relationship. That nerd got laid at a VERY early age.

- Shouldn't the Mets be encouraging them to go outside instead of playing computer games all day? We'll never know because we have to sit through our second air guitar montage.

- Oh God, the Scientist dad is singing into a rubber crocodile. David Lynch would call this video "f---ed up."




Thoughts about Part 2:

- Gary Carter's line "Think about what you are not doing what you could be doing" is profound. For Gary I would say "You are not doing something dignified." I love that he is basically reading off of a cue card. At least I hope he is.

- Uh oh... they are talking about "No matter how bleak things are, there is always hope." And Gary Carter, the guy who started the Game 6 10th inning rally is standing next to Mookie Wilson who hit the you know what through the legs of you know who. I have a feeling the next clip will be tough for this Red Sox fan to watch.

- *phew* It's just an indulgent story about Gary Carter in highschool.

- Um... kids, why not take swings at the... you know... plate? And are we supposed to think that Gary Carter is singing?

- Mookie, thanks for the motivational speech, but they DO know that we are talking about a computer game, right? By the way, Mookie's clean living lesson could have been learned in that clubhouse.

- Wait a second! Are we in the woods with Mookie Wilson? Is that the house from Cabin Fever? WHAT THE F---?

- Who are these bullies sitting in the empty Shea Stadium with the Watchmen fan and his obnoxious sister?

- Who are the cute ethnically ambiguous girls with Mookie Wilson during a rain delay?

- The kids say no to the dealers who usually have such loyal customers in Mets uniforms.

- That flash cut to the bat near Mookie's crotch was a little intense for a video aimed at kids. (I'm guessing this is aimed at kids... or maybe stoned Met fans.)

- Now the Mets players have taken the scientists glasses away while he stumbles around. How is that different from the bullies behavior?

- Now we are playing football? Salvador Dali only wishes he got to this level of surrealism.

- I am guessing the kids computer team is still getting its butt kicked by the Megabats. (Remember them? Remember the plot?)

- The score is only 4-0? They were making it out like it was a blow out.

- Keep in mind that "You've got to work as a team" speech by McDowell was the best take the editor had to work with. He couldn't stumble through those lines any worse if he was saying it Dutch and reading the lines in Braille.

- What is that modern art hanging on the wall? Also I am guessing their mothers ashes are in one of those urns.

- Roger McDowell basically reenacts Bugs Bunny against the Gashouse Gorillas.

- Hey Roger... if you are really that tired, do you know what would help? GREENIES!

- OK, now we are in the kitchen making a stack of peanut butter and jelly sandwiches with Roger McDowell. That is a sentence I thought I was going to go my whole life without typing.

- After wandering around the breakfast nook in fast motion and learning "Putting on the Ritz" with baseball bats, Roger McDowell teaches the kids how to throw a spit ball. Well, that's ONE way to beat the Megabats!

- We see "teamwork" illustrated by passing a hot dog down your row. What part of "Not the same amount of change arriving to the vendor" is part of teamwork?

- There is a lot of crowding around and sitting on laps in that dugout. At least their way too young father is there to supervise.





Thoughts about Part 3:


- "How are we going to get the guys in the computer to understand it?" Kid, I've been wondering that 4 music video sequences ago!

- Mookie has an idea. If he says the sentence "Did any of you kids see TRON?" I will crap my pants.

- The kid's speech of "The computer doesn't know that stuff" basically sounds like everything Joe Morgan would say if the letters O, P and S are brought up.

- Basically we've had to sit through two whole parts to find out there was an intangible menu? I wonder if that was actually a Speak and Spell that they used to say the computers lines. Shouldn't teamwork be programmed for the other 23 players?

- Pete Rose discipline... 100%. Well he certainly was disciplined 100%.

- The other kids yell "What's going on here?" Kids, I have no clue.

- Ty Cobb... Racism... 100%.

- Wait they are having McDowell bat? Don't they have Joe DiMaggio on the bench to pinch hit? Terrible Managing Decision... 100%!

- So wait, Gary Carter is batting after McDowell? Is Carter the lead off hitter? OK, I am thinking about this too much.

- Why do I have the feeling they wanted to have the whole game be a cartoon and they realized how much time that would take... meaning we are stuck with a bunch of awkward cutaways of Gary Carter high fiving Mookie Wilson.

- Cut to a Home Invasion!

- "I'd like you to meet some of the members of our team... here are the remains of Ty Cobb, Babe Ruth, Lou Gehrig..."

- Of all the clips to show during the end credits, they show the motivational speeches? There had better be some Smokey and the Bandit-esque bloopers during the credit crawl! (My cinema studies professors at NYU would be so proud I used the term Smokey and the Bandit-esque.)

- This end credit montage sounds like "Mets therapy." I almost expect to hear an off screen doctor ask "And how did that make you feel, Mookie?"


Lord help you if you watched all three...

If there any other spirit crushingly horrible videos starring 1980s baseball players, please send them to info@sullybaseball.com

And remember...

THINK BIG!



BRING BACK OIL CAN!!!!




















I called up my cousin Dave the other day during the A-Rod press conference to assure him that I would not throw him under the bus if I ever were involved in a steroid scandal.

He asked me if I had heard about Oil Can Boyd... which I hadn't. But any non steroid news would be welcome, especially about one of my favorite players from the 1980s.

Well the Can is trying a comeback.
He hasn't pitched in a big league game since getting lit up on October 1, 1991 while pitching for the Rangers, but he wants back in.

And the staff at Sully Baseball thinks he should get a chance!

Why?

1) He's been playing in the minor leagues... granted the independent Brockton Rocks but it's not like he's been just sitting on his La-Z boy since the first George Bush was in office.

2) Current batters haven't seen him. Hell, in this year's draft there will be some kids in the first round who weren't even born when he threw his last pitch.

3) Baseball needs a renaissance of nicknames, and few ones were as cool as "Oil Can."

4) Pitching is bad enough on so many teams that how could a flier on the Can be any worse? The Pirates signed two kids from India who have never played baseball before but won a reality show. Kind of like The Rookie meets Slumdog Millionaire.

How could bringing the Can back be worse than making the baseball equivalent of Sanjaya a shot?

5) Oil Can is healthier than Mike Hampton. At this point I think Stephen Hawking is healthier than Mike Hampton!

6) Oil Can's hero is Satchel Paige. The fact that Paige was only one year younger than Oil Can is now when he made his debut with the Indians is part of Oil Can's inspiration. And playing a game of Six Degrees of Separation would bring a lot of today's players closer to Satchel.

Satchel started pitching in the 1920s and dominated through the 1930s and early 1940s. He was denied the chance to stare down Babe Ruth, Lou Gehrig, Jimmie Foxx, Mel Ott and all of the other stars at that time.

He was brought out of retirement in 1965 to pitch a game on the last home stand of the year for the Kansas City A's.
Despite being 58 at the time, he pitched three scoreless innings against the Red Sox... letting up only one hit: A double to Carl Yastrzemski.

When Yastrzemski, the last major leaguer to get a hit off of Paige, retired in 1983, one of his teammates was Oil Can Boyd.

That's a pretty short connection. Let's have that connection continue to today's players!

and finally

7) Wouldn't Oil Can getting one more shot be a welcome relief from all of this steroid talk? Wouldn't it be great to bring back a guy who loved the game and was one of the great characters... at least to give him a shot!


So come on! There are 30 teams out there and ALL of them need another arm.

Bring back the Can!

NEW YORK METS - ALL TIME HOME GROWN TEAM vs. ALL TIME ACQUIRED TEAM


I’ve got 26 more teams to breakdown their homegrown vs. acquired all time roster and only 3 ½ months to do it.

No time to rest.
We did the Yankees… let’s go across town and check out the Mets.

Ahhh the Mets. It takes a certain kind of character to be a Mets fan. You have the option of the Yankees who have the tradition, the history, the championships and the clean crisp uniforms.

Or you have the Mets who give their fans a treat about every other decade but the rest of the time their fans sink into their seats, face in their hands and shake their head thinking “Why do I root for this team?”

Because you are Masochists!!!!

Or you think it builds character. (Like there’s a difference.)

As always, the rules for this exercise can be found here.

Let’s makes a list!

ALL TIME HOME GROWN METS TEAM

STARTING CATCHER
TODD HUNDLEY

He was a hard nosed fan favorite who never hit more than 16 homers a year… and then suddenly set the single season home run record for catchers with 41. Hmmmm. His name came up in the Mitchell Report (who knew?) but he was so popular in Queens that a lot of Met fans wanted him over Mike Piazza.





STARTING FIRST BASEMAN
ED KRANEPOOL

The youngest member of the original 1962 Met team (he was only 17!) Kranepool stuck around and was a steady if not spectacular player for the 1969 and 1973 Met teams. A native New York, he also did a series of strange commercials for Foamy shaving cream. Believe it or not, they are NOT available on Youtube.





STARTING SECOND BASEMAN
EDGARDO ALFONZO

About as popular a Met as I can remember… made the All Star Team as a second baseman and then moved to third base when Robbie Alomar came over. When the Mets let him go and he signed with the Giants, “Fonzie” bought as space on taxi cabs thanking New York fans for the love. I don’t think Bobby Bonilla did that.





STARTING SHORTSTOP
BUD HARRELSON

When I was a kid, I had a copy of the book “How To Play Better Baseball” supposedly written by Harrelson. I read it. It didn’t work. He did a little bit of everything for the Mets. He was a 2 time All Star shortstop, a coach, a manager and for about 3 minutes a broadcaster.




STARTING THIRD BASEMAN
DAVID WRIGHT

The Mets have a horrible history having stability at third base, but that is all probably over with Wright. Met fans hope he is their answer to Derek Jeter. It might be early to talk like that, but he’s been in the bigs for 4 ½ seasons and have put up MVP caliber numbers in each season. He’s already got multiple Gold Gloves and Silver Sluggers. Put a ring on his finger and he might be the next New York baseball God. And he seems to be taking all the pressure in stride.



STARTING LEFT FIELDER
MOOKIE WILSON

His stats were never eye popping and the Mets ultimately sent him packing for Jeff Musselman… but is one of the most loved Mets of all time. I’m sure it had as much to do with his hustle, his positive attitude, the fact that he was a good guy in a club house filled with trouble makers and his dynamic speed as being the guy who hit the ball that trickled through Buckner’s legs.



STARTING CENTER FIELDER
LEE MAZZILLI

When the Yankees were winning World Series and had the complete attention of the city, the Mets needed some sort of attraction. If they called Central Casting, they couldn’t have found a better marquee player for late 1970s New York than Mazzilli. He was handsome, he could hit, he was a native New Yorker and had that cool “Travolta Italian” quality that was all the rage. Helped the Mets when he was dealt to the Rangers for Ron Darling. The Mets rewarded him by reacquiring him for the 1986 stretch run where he picked up a ring. He was so popular in Queens that Steinbrenner had to swipe him twice. First as a player (in exchange for Bucky Dent) and later as a coach.



STARTING RIGHT FIELDER
DARRYL STRAWBERRY

Could you imagine what this guy could have been if he didn’t derail his career? As it was, it was a pretty impressive career. 4 MVP caliber seasons and that devastating helicopter like swing! That shot off of Al Nipper in game 7 of the 1986 World Series hasn’t landed yet. Hopefully he saved some of the $30 million he made over his career.


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TOP PINCH HITTER OFF OF THE BENCH
DAVE MAGADAN

Did you know Dave Magadan played for 16 years in the majors? I remember watching a game in 2001 and seeing Magadan coming up as a pinch hitter. I thought “Wait, is that the same guy who came up with the Mets?”

Yup. Lou Piniella’s nephew was about as dull and unmemorable a player as you will ever watch. But he was a reliable hitter, many times clearing .300. Would be a solid guy off the bench.




THE STARTING ROTATION


TOM SEAVER

How much did Tom Seaver mean to this team? How much is he revered by Met fans? My friend Doc Dougherty wrote a play that took place in his neighborhood in Queens the night Seaver was dealt to the Reds. One of the characters contemplates moving to Cincinnati to watch Seaver pitch. The most dominating pitcher of his era and he also received the highest voting percentage for the Hall of Fame up until that point. Seriously, who voted AGAINST him?




DWIGHT GOODEN

Seriously, don’t you wish you could back in time and confront Doc Gooden? Say “Hey, 3 years into your career and you already have a Rookie of the Year, a Cy Young and a World Series ring. All you have to do is not get hurt and not get hooked on Cocaine and you will be in the Hall of Fame and be worshipped as one of the great Gods in New York sports history.”

As it is now, he is a great story of redemption… but damn it he was going to be a GOD!

Stay off of the stuff folks.

NOLAN RYAN

Not a bad #3 starter, eh? I heard Tom Seaver on Dibble and Kennedy once talking about hearing that Ryan was traded. He evidently screamed “THEY DID WHAT?” He was dealt for Jim Fregosi, who was already a veteran manager when Ryan retired in 1993. The Mets have never had a no hitter in their history. It’s safe to say that would have been different if Ryan were allowed to stay!






JERRY KOOSMAN

No offense to Donn Clendenon, but how the hell was Jerry Koosman NOT the MVP of the 1969 World Series? Down 1 game to zero to the heavily favored Orioles, Koosman pitched 8 2/3 innings of 1 run ball in game 2 to tie the series… and then pitched a complete game victory to clinch the World Series in 5 games.

Also threw a complete game victory in game 3 of the 1973 NLCS and won game 5 of the 1973 World Series with 6 1/3 shut out innings.

The trade that sent him out of town worked out better for the Mets than the Seaver or Ryan trade. They acquired Jesse Orosco in the deal. In other words, the guy who threw the final pitch of the Mets first World Series title was dealt for the guy who would throw the final pitch of the Mets other World Series title.


JON MATLACK

A consistent winner for the Mets, Matlack was involved in that intensely confusing 4 team trade on December 8, 1977. Somehow Al Oliver ended up a Ranger, Bert Blyleven ended up a Pirate, Willie Montanez became a Met and a bunch of other people were pushed around and boom! Matlack is a Ranger. In less than 2 seasons, the Mets shed Tom Seaver, Jerry Koosman and Jon Matlack. Not 100% what their plan was!



THE BULLPEN


TUG McGRAW

I had a fascination with bullpen closers as a kid and I used to imitate Tug McGraw winning the 1980 World Series often. Tug was everything you would want in a closer… ice water in the veins, clutch and possibly insane. Gave the 1973 Mets the “You Gotta Believe” rallying cry… and then clinched the pennant.


RANDY MYERS

His emergence in 1987 made Jesse Orosco instantly expendable. He had a strikeout to innings pitch ratio to make your mouth drool and created a formidable 1-2 punch with Roger McDowell in 1988. Met fans can only wonder how their fortunes would be different if Davey Johnson had him pitch to Mike Scoscia in the 9th inning of game 4 instead of keeping Gooden in there. Later was dealt for John Franco and was one of The Nasty Boys in Cincinnati.

ROGER McDOWELL

A classic screw loose relief pitcher, McDowell posted solid numbers all the while pulling practical jokes involving fire crackers and wearing his uniform upside down. Pitched a scoreless 7th inning to earn the win in game 7 of the 1986 World Series… a game most people forget happened. He did let up two critical home runs… one to Terry Pendleton late in 1987 which all but sunk their World Series defense. The other was Kirk Gibson’s 12th inning shot in game 4 of the 1988 NLCS that won that game. Was stupidly dealt in the Juan Samuel trade and the Mets missed his fun persona for years to come. Acted in a Seinfeld episode… which makes him cool.


JEFF REARDON

Yup, Reardon was a product of the Mets farm system. In fact he wasn’t even drafted out of U. Mass Amherst, but was given a shot with the Mets. He got some Rookie of the Year votes in 1980 setting up Neil Allen before being dealt to Montreal and starting a borderline Hall of Fame career and having a tragic downfall in his post baseball life.





NEIL ALLEN

Allen is on this list for three specific reasons:

1. He saved 22 games for a lousy Mets team.
2. The Mets traded him for Keith Hernandez
3. As a Yankee in 1988 was credited with throwing a shutout but not a complete game. He threw 9 innings of shutout relief on May 31st against the A's. I watched that game on TV... Al Leiter threw one pitch as a starter, made an error and was taken out of the game with an injury and Allen threw 9 shutout innings. The A's announcers wondered if he would get credit for the shutout, which he did. I have never seen that before or since. And seeing this is Sully Baseball, I felt he was deserved a tip of the hat for that game!

THE BENCH

RESERVE INFIELDER
JOSE REYES

Possibly the most polarizing figure in Mets history, some Met fans speak of him as a superstar to cheer… others scream about him not running out ground balls in key situations. You know a guy is a hot dog when he has to make an announcement that he is going to spend less time on dugout dances.






RESERVE INFIELDER
HUBIE BROOKS

There was a period of Mets history where they had a dynamic outfielder named Mookie and a rising star third baseman named Hubie. The Mets weren’t winning much, but they had Mookie and Hubie… so how bad could life be. Hubie was dealt off in the Gary Carter trade and was stuck in Montreal… a market that didn’t deserve a hard hitting, run producing infielder named Hubie.



RESERVE OUTFIELDER
CLEON JONES

An All Star in 1969 for the Miracle Mets, he also figured prominently in the deciding game 5. He was hit on the foot with a pitch… and thank goodness he was wearing shoe polish because the ump didn’t award him first until manager Gil Hodges pointed out the shoepolish on the ball. He would score on the Donn Clendenon homer to make it 3-2 Orioles. In the 9th, he caught the final out of the World Series. Not a bad day’s work in earning the love of a fan base.

RESERVE OUTFIELDER
LENNY DYKSTRA

I don’t know a single Met fan who doesn’t have a little bit of reverence for Lenny Dykstra. Hard nosed, arrogant and an annoying S.O.B. to the opposition, he seemed to run through walls while chewing tobacco and brawling. Plus the little twerp had some pop. Just ask Dave Smith, who let up his walk off shot in game 3 of the 1986 NLCS. Just ask Oil Can Boyd who served up his lead off homer in game 3 of the 1986 World Series and set the tone of the Mets blow out win. Was stupidly dealt with McDowell for Juan Samuel (and he mysteriously bulked up while in Philadelphia.) When the Mets made that move and took that grit and humor out of the locker room, the Mets didn’t recover for a decade.


RESERVE CATCHER
RON HODGES

A fixture on the Mets bench for a dozen seasons, Hodges was never a starter. But he had a decent on base percentage. He never made much of an impact on the field but must have been a good guy in the clubhouse. Why else would a .240 career hitter who never hit more than 5 homers in a season survive 12 seasons in the big leagues?




25TH MAN
ANTHONY YOUNG

I was in New York that summer of 1993… the Mets were the worst team that money can buy and no player showed the futility of that team than Poor Anthony Young. The poor guy just couldn’t win a game… literally. From May 6 1992 to July 24, 1993 he went 0-27.

But here’s the strange part… he didn’t pitch that badly. He would have a bad inning here or there but kept his ERA hovering respectfully around 4.00. Often it would dip below 4. And Dallas Green tried everything to get him a win. He’d bring him in from the pen in a tie game. He’d start him. And nothing would work. He saved a game on July 22… but that didn’t break the streak.

On July 28th against the Marlins a runner reached base on an error and scored on a 2 out bunt single by Chuckie Carr. Young was in line to drop to 28 losses in a row all the while lowering his ERA. But Eddie Murray hit a 2 out game winning double to give the win to Young.

Here’s the kicker… in a team full of underachieving veterans, surly millionaires, and fire cracker throwing, bleach spraying clubhouse cancers, Young was the most admirable player on the team. He lost but did so with dignity. He never shied from the press. Never blamed anyone else and had all of America wanting him to break the streak. He appeared on Jay Leno as a guest when the streak ended. The place gave him a rousing ovation. With the Mets uneven history, it’s good to have someone who loses with grace on board.



Well a solid team… not a whole lot of pop but a great starting rotation and a deep enough bullpen to withstand an evitable Anthony Young loss.

Now the Acquired Team right off of the bat provided me with a dilemma at catcher. I could chose a Hall of Famer who lead the charge to the World Series title… or I could chose the best offensive catcher in baseball history.

All I can say is Jerry Grote… you are S. O. L.



ALL TIME ACQUIRED METS TEAM


STARTING CATCHER
MIKE PIAZZA

With all due respect for Gary Carter, this HAS to be Mike Piazza’s spot! The guy should have been one of the great Dodgers of all time and his contract dispute and the bizarre trade to Florida was the Mets great fortune.

His high batting average and power numbers should speak for themselves. So should his ability to play hurt and literally bleed for the Mets.

But it was his intangibles that put him here too. He was the superstar face of the franchise as they competed for fans with the Yankees. Had a gigantic homer against John Smoltz in the 1999 NLCS and homered twice in the 2000 World Series against the Yankees.

But his game winning shot on September 21, 2001… just 10 days after the attacks gave New Yorkers their first reason to cheer and be happy in more than a week. Because of that he will always be in the pantheon of beloved New York sports stars.

Watch this clip from the brilliant Nine Innings From Ground Zero to see what I am talking about.

Also he was great on his Apprentice cameo.


STARTING FIRST BASEMAN
KEITH HERNANDEZ

Mex was the best defensive first baseman of his era… but that didn’t impress Elaine Benes.

Made the second out of the 10th inning of game 6 of the 1986 World Series. Like everyone else on the planet Earth he thought it was over. Oh well…





STARTING SECOND BASEMAN
FELIX MILLAN

Felix the Cat was a Gold Glove Shortstop who picked up some MVP votes for the 1973 NL champion Mets. His career ended when Ed Ott slid hard into them and they got into a brawl. If I did my homework here, it looks like his career ended with the injuries sustained in the fight.

But I’ll put him on here if for no other reason than to honor a player who keeps his hands that far up on the bat.




STARTING SHORTSTOP
RAFAEL SANTANA

A classic all field no hit shortstop, Santana never put up a single season of offensive numbers of note. But he could field his position well… and did so for the World Champion Mets. Not bad for a player cut by the Cardinals. (You can’t blame the Cardinals… Santana wasn’t about to replace Ozzie Smith!)





STARTING THIRD BASEMAN
RAY KNIGHT

Let me tell you my Ray Knight story. I was a guest on ESPN2’s show Cold Pizza where I was the lunatic Red Sox fan in residence. My segment was ending and Jay Crawford set up the next segment which involved Ray Knight and his wife, golfing great Nancy Lopez.

When Jay mentioned Ray, the MVP of the 1986 World Series… the guy whose two strike single prolonged that 10th inning, the guy who scored on the Buckner error, the guy who homered off of Schraldi to give the Mets the lead for good in game 7… Jay said “Sorry Paul.” He knew I was still smarting from that series. (It was 2004… the Curse was alive and well.)

When Jay said “Sorry Paul” Ray Knight smiled and on the air gave a little punch in the air motion… TOWARDS ME.

That wasn’t a generic “That’s right Red Sox fans, we won” moment. That was a specific gesture that said “Hey Paul Sullivan… the greatest moments of my professional career haunt you at night… AND I COULDN’T BE HAPPIER TO BE TORMENTING YOU… PAUL SULLIVAN!”

It was a strange moment.

STARTING LEFT FIELDER
KEVIN McREYNOLDS

McReynolds put up some nice power numbers when he was picked up from San Diego after the 1986 World Series. The Mets needed a good right handed power stick and the soft spoken McReynolds let his 20 some odd homers a year do the talking.

But he was never embraced by Mets fans. Best as I can figure it out, they saw McReynolds as the beginning of the break up of the raucous fun loving 1986 Mets. (Hell raiser but fan favorite and future NL MVP Kevin Mitchell was sent to San Diego in the deal.)

He gave them steady play and no headlines… an unforgivable crime for the Met fans of the 1980s!


STARTING CENTER FIELDER
CARLOS BELTRAN

Beltran hit 41 homers with 116 RBIs in 2006. He keeps putting up power numbers and driving in 110+ runs. He steals bases, wins Gold Glove awards, is named to the Silver Slugger Team every year and gets MVP votes.

If only he swung the bat in the 9th inning of game 7 of the 2006 NLCS. He might actually be loved by Met fans!



STARTING RIGHT FIELDER
RUSTY STAUB

Now we're talking a beloved player! In fact the only question is what fan base loved him more: The Mets or the Expos who hailed him as The Grand Orange! If the Mets won the 1973 World Series he would have been the MVP. He later came back to the Mets as an overweight pinch hitter.

My cousin Dave told me about a game in the 1980s where Staub had to play the outfield and the manager kept shifting him from left field to right field to avoid having the ball hit to him. Davey Johnson never played him once in the field in 1985. He missed being on a World Series winner by one year... but he later ran a cool restaurant in New York.

TOP PINCH HITTER OFF OF THE BENCH
DAVE KINGMAN

Is there a stranger career in baseball than Dave Kingman's? The guy could homer left and right and strike out every other time. Who else can lead the league in homers like he did in 1982 but have a lower average than the Cy Young Winner?

He hit 442 homers back when that meant something, but doesn't get even a courtesy mention for the Hall of Fame.

He had two stints with the Mets and had a 37 homer season in each tour of duty (at the time the Mets record.)

He hit 35 homers his final season with Oakland and never played in the bigs again.
Again, strange career.

THE STARTING ROTATION

RON DARLING

How many good looking Hawaii born Ivy Leaguers can also win 17 games and get the ball for game 7 of the World Series. Darling was stolen from the Rangers in the Lee Mazzilli trade and gave the Mets as great a #2 starter as you can find in the game. Finished with a 1.53 ERA in 17 2/3 innings for the 1986 World Series.

He never was spectacular. He just won and threw 200 some odd innings each year.




BOBBY OJEDA

There were many things about the 1986 World Series that make me grind my teeth.
High up there is the fact that Bobby Ojeda, a Red Sox pitching prospect who was on the verge of blossoming for what seemed like 15 years (actually it was only 6 seasons) was traded away to the Mets and suddenly became an 18 game winner.

Ojeda was traded for Wes Gardner and Calvin Schraldi.
Ojeda won game 3 of the 1986 World Series.
Schraldi lost games 6 and 7 of the 1986 World Series.

In other words that trade led directly to 3 of the Red Sox 4 losses.

Grinding my teeth.


AL LEITER

Al has done a little bit of everything in his career. He had played on two World Series winners (1993 Blue Jays and the 1997 Marlins) was an All Star and threw a no hitter before he arrived in Queens. He became a steady and reliable winner throwing a complete game shut out in the one game playoff against Cincinnati to win the 1999 Wild Card.

Yeah he talks too much and is an annoying broadcaster. That shouldn't diminish from a memorable if not great career. (Why did Valentine leave him in that long in game 5 of the 2000 World Series?)




DAVID CONE

I've heard some people erroneously list David Cone with the 1986 Mets pitching staff.
That's easy to do because he fit right in with the hell raising Met culture. His incident with a few young ladies in the Bullpen is one of those that makes you wish there was a security camera clip leaked onto Youtube.

He went 20-3 in 1988 and became a part time journalist with a Dodger bashing article in the Daily News.
Met fans loved him and were furious when he was dealt to the Blue Jays for Jeff Kent.
He won a Cy Young Award with the Royals and became a World Series hero with the Yankees... but he blossomed as a Met!





MIKE HAMPTON

Yeah I'm sure there are other more popular Mets to put here. I'm sure there are people who would think that Sid Fernandez should be here. And yeah I know he only spent one year as a Met and turned down their dough and gave a laughable reason for signing with the Rockies. (He did it for the school system? $10 million a year and you can't afford private school?)

But he also was the MVP of the 2000 NLCS.
He also threw a complete game shut out in the deciding game 5 of the 2000 NLCS.
When the Mets won the pennant, they all rushed the mound to pile on Hampton.

Folks, that should amount to some love!




THE BULLPEN


JESSE OROSCO

It's taken me a long time to look at that clip of Marty Barrett striking out to Jesse Orosco and not wince.
(For those of you who don't know... that's how the 1986 World Series ended... it didn't end with a ground ball through Buckner's legs!)

Orosco throwing that glove into the air...
The wild celebration...

I can't say it doesn't hurt anymore. But seeing my team win two World Series has made that clip more palatable.

Damn Orosco was good in his day... and he played for 24 seasons. Not too shabby at all.

By the way, in that game 7... not only did Orosco save the game... but he got an RBI single too.
Ooof.




JOHN FRANCO

For 14 seasons, John Franco was the fireman in Queens. He was a Met with Darryl Strawberry and Dwight Gooden... He was a Met with David Wright and Jose Reyes. He saw the Mets crumble in the Bobby Bonilla/Bret Saberhagen years... he outlasted Bill Pulsipher, Paul Wilson and Jason Isringhausen... he was a teammate of Mike Piazza and played in the heart stopping 1999 NLCS. Nobody seemed more excited to part of the 2000 pennant clinching celebration. And the native Brooklynite seemed more crushed than anyone that the Mets couldn't deliver a division title for a post September 11th New York.

So why isn't he more loved by Met fans?
He seems destined to be part of the Mets TV network.



RON TAYLOR

One of the top relief specialists for the 1969 team, Taylor saved game 2 of the World Series making sure the Mets came to Queens tied 1-1. Pitched for a few more seasons after the 1969 World Series and then went back to his native Canada to become a doctor.

Folks, that is some versatility!





BILLY WAGNER

Oh I am sure some Met fans don't agree with this one.
He had a horrific 2006 NLCS, losing game 2 and giving the Cardinals some hope. And he blew a key game to the Phillies down the stretch in 2007. But his value was shown this year as the Mets collapsed when he went down for the season.

Plus his absence made the Mets overpay for Francisco Rodriguez and J. J. Putz. He must have had some value.





SKIP LOCKWOOD

Why is Skip Lockwood on this list?
Let me count the 4 reasons:

1. Jim Bouton had some nice things to say about him in Ball Four.

2. He saved 20 games for a HORRIBLE Mets team in 1977.

3. When he came over to the Red Sox, he lived in my home town of Weston. I would see him every once in a while in the center of town wearing a Mets jacket.

4. On principle, I can NOT put Armando Benitez on this list, despite the fact that Benitez is among the team leaders in saves and many relief categories. Benitez is a horrible reliever. If you don't believe me, ask any Mets fan... or Orioles fan... or Giants fan. Besides, I had to swallow my pride and honor him with the Marlins. Once is enough!




THE BENCH


RESERVE INFIELDER
ROBIN VENTURA

The one time Olympic star came to the Mets from the White Sox and provided great defense in one of the best defensive infields of all time.

He also had plenty of pop in his bat as shown by his walk off grand slam/single in game 5 of the 1999 NLCS. You would think that Todd Pratt, who had hit a game ending homer just a week before, would have known better than to prevent him from circling the bases!





RESERVE INFIELDER
HOWARD JOHNSON

Seriously, what were Mr. and Mrs. Johnson thinking when they named their kid Howard?
Who didn't chuckle when they first heard there was a dude actually named Howard Johnson playing ball?
What's next? Someone named Milton Bradley?

Either way, the guy without a position (is he a third baseman? Is he a short stop? Should they make room for Magadan, Elster and Jefferies?) gave the Mets switch hitting power and speed on the basepaths.

All the while playing with a silly name.



RESERVE OUTFIELDER
RICHIE ASHBURN

Why is Ashburn on this list? He only played one season with the Mets.

I’ll tell you why. Because I felt that a member of the 1962 Mets who finished 40-120 should be honored. Ashburn was the first ever Met All Star… an honor that probably hastened his retirement the next season.



RESERVE OUTFIELDER
TOMMIE AGEE

When I was a kid, one of the first videotapes we ever had was the 1980 HBO Special The First 25 Years of Sports Illustrated.
It was hosted by James Caan and while the whole show was great, I tended to fast forward to the baseball parts.

The biggest baseball highlights were the 1975 World Series (which I wore the tape out watching that), Hank Aaron's 715th home run (set to the bad ass "What Do You Do With A Drunken Sailor" NFL Films music) and the 1969 World Series.

The part that I loved the most were the two catches by Tommie Agee. One he dives for and the other is a spectacular snow cone grab.

An 8 year old Paul Sullivan used to try and simulate that snow cone grab while playing catch with my dad.
I did it every once in a while. Never in a World Series situation.




RESERVE CATCHER
GARY CARTER

Gary Carter was a great player and a Hall of Famer.
I almost put him ahead of Mike Piazza as the starting catcher but changed my mind.

OK, got that out of the way.

Of all the members of the 1986 Mets he was the one I hated the most.
Why?

1) He hit those two homers in game 4 of the 1986 World Series that tied the series 2-2 and killed the Red Sox momentum.
2) He was nicknamed The Kid. That's horsesh--! TED WILLIAMS was the Kid!
3) He started the rally in the 10th...
4) His smile grated on me.

So yeah, on a team filled with drug addicts and brawlers, it was the Good Christian who drove me batty.




25TH MAN
DONN CLENDENON

There were many people up for 25th man but I felt like I couldn't omit the most valuable player of the 1969 World Series.
Clendenon refused to report to the Houston Astros in a trade from Montreal. It may have been bad sportsmanship, but it turned out well for the Mets when they sent future Red Sox non entity Steve Renko and others to the Expos for Clendenon.

He didn't play in the NLCS nor in all 5 World Series games. But hit key homers in games 4 and 5 to seal the World Series victory. The Mets cut him 2 years later... very sentimental team.


SO WHO WOULD WIN IN A HEAD TO HEAD SERIES?

The acquired team has more power, a deep pitching staff and a pair of World Series MVPs... but are you really going to bet against a starting staff that goes Seaver-Gooden-Ryan?

VERDICT: THE HOME GROWN METS WILL WIN... PROVIDED ANTHONY YOUNG STAYS IN THE PEN!


Let's keep the ball rolling here (just not through Buckner's legs.)

That's the Mets
And the Rangers
And the Marlins
And the Yankees
And the Red Sox

25 to go

NEXT ALL TIME HOMEGROWN VERSUS ACQUIRED TEAM:
THE COLORADO ROCKIES