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Showing posts with label Neal Huntington. Show all posts

I always get in trouble when I criticize the Pirates, but...




You can never accuse Pirate fans of being apathetic... at least not the ones who read what I write. As I've said before, I like the Pirates and want them to do well. And I hope that Neal Huntington helps assemble a winner and Clint Hurdle manages them back to the post season.

But whenever I point out that their trades have left something to be desired or the team doesn't look that good for next year, MAN do I get hate mail.

My article for The Hardball Times got a FLURRY of people trashing me for insinuating that the Pirates weren't in great shape and that GM Neal Huntington's trades have been a mixed bag at best.

So I tip toe cautiously in pointing out something bad again... but I can't help it.

Zach Duke was designated for assignment. He's gone. If they get anything in a trade for him, it will essentially be the equivalent of a bag of donuts.

Andy LaRoche is also heading out the door. Now I understand the economy of baseball (and the economy for that matter) and that Huntington had to clear some roster spaces.

But man I couldn't help but think of one trade that was made and one that wasn't... and more missed opportunities to make the Pirates better.

In 2008, Jason Bay was a prime trade chip. The Red Sox thought highly enough of him to make him Manny Ramirez's replacement.

The Dodgers thought highly enough about Ramirez to deal for him and sell lots of tickets and Dreadlock wigs.

And the Pirates got LaRoche... a young right handed third baseman who did exactly nothing in the bigs. They also got Brendan Moss and Craig Hansen, both busts and Bryan Morris who hasn't exactly impressed in AA.

All for Bay.

Meanwhile Duke, who looked like a young potential ace in 2005, had his ups and downs. But by 2009 he was eating up innings and pitching to a good ERA. He was a 26 year old left handed pitcher on the All Star team.

If he wasn't going to be a cornerstone for the franchise, I bet he would have been a good trade chip.

I wonder if any team could have used a young left handed starter in the 2009 stretch run. Are teams EVER looking for young left handed starting pitching?

Oh yeah. ALL the time.

So instead of dealing him... or making him part of their long term plans... they did neither and will get gotch for him.

This reminds me of Matt Capps, the Pirates reliever who Pittsburgh let walk away at age 25.

The got absolutely nothing for him.
But 1/2 a season later, the Nationals were able to flip him for Wilson Ramos... a catcher who is just about ready for the bigs.

So once again, I shake my head at the praise of Neal Huntington.
He blew the Jason Bay deal.
He botched Matt Capps.
And he wasn't able to turn Zach Duke into anything.

OTHER teams can pull off trades, but the Pirates can't for some reason.
OTHER teams can get talent back, but not Pittsburgh.

Now I will no doubt get a ton of negative comments for this post and I am expecting it.

And I'll get a lot of revisionist history.
"Bay has been a flop with the Mets!"

Yup. But nobody knew that in 2008... and Bay wasn't a flop in Boston.

"Duke fell apart after the 2009 All Star Break."
But nobody knew that in 2009 when he was young, left handed and pitching to an ERA in the 3's.

Unfortunately like before I have facts on my side.

I want to see the Pirates succeed. And maybe Huntington will build a good team through the draft.

But wouldn't it help if he made a good trade or two?

Maybe I'm wrong.



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Do the Pirates have a chance to have a winning season in 2011?















God bless the Pirate fans who showed up at PNC Park last night to watch their Bucs deny Cy Young hopeful Adam Wainwright a win tonight... as the Pirates took advantage of gunshy third base coach Jose Oquendo who stopped the tying run from scoring off of Albert Pujols' bat.

There will be individual game highlights like last night's win in the Pirates 2010 season, but let's not get too excited.

Not only is the Pirates streak of sub .500 seasons now LEGAL (it's 18. You can sleep with anyone born in their last winning season!) but as of this writing, the Pirates are the worst team in baseball.

Now I have picked on the Pirates before... because I actually LIKE the Pirates and would like to see them win.

But will 2011 be any different?

The Pirates goal is modest... an 82-80 record. But that has been as difficult to scale as Everest.

Here's 5 reasons why 2011 might be different in Pittsburgh:


1) ANDREW McCUTCHEN AND PEDRO ALVAREZ MAKE A NICE 1-2 PUNCH

One swings left handed. The other right handed. Both are products of the draft and could be that rare specimen: A Pirates first round pick that isn't a bust. Both will be 24 next season and even with the Pirates tendency to deal players the nanosecond they ask for more than minimum wage, these two will be in Steel City for 4 or 5 more seasons.

Plus they will make players like Milledge, Tabata and Jones solid depth in the lineup.



2) SECOND BASEMAN NEIL WALKER GETS IT.

Walker has been a nice fit at second base and has hit to a high average as well. He's also a Pittsburgh native who was 7 years old when Sid Bream scored on Francisco Cabrera's single. Now my personal theory is that you start to follow the ins and outs of a baseball team when you turn 7 years old. That mean Walker has a vague memory of the Pirates being relevant.

You'll need all sorts of talent to turn the Pirates around, but it would help to have an honest to goodness Pittsburgh boy on the roster helping the Bucs get there.


3) GM NEAL HUNTINGTON ACTUALLY SEEMS INTERESTED IN GETTING THE TEAM BETTER

Now he hasn't succeeded in doing so... but at least he is drafting the best players and not drafting solely for signability. That's already paid dividends with Pedro Alvarez. Can Tony Sanchez or Jameson Taillon be far behind? He'll have the #1 overall next June. He should pick a stud.

Plus there is some talent in their system. Can Rudy Owens, Chase d'Arnaud, Bryan Morris, Andrew Lambo or Jeff Locke make the leap from AA to the bigs sometime in 2011? It could give the team a boost.



4) THE RECORD MIGHT BE BAD, BUT THERE IS SOME TALENT IN THOSE ARMS

Zach Duke was an All Star just a few years ago. Paul Maholm has some talent. And Karstens and Ohlendorf has shown flashes of ability. Brad Lincoln has flopped in the bigs so far but has shown promise in AAA. And Evan Meek made the All Star team. Each of them is on the right side of 30 years old.

Besides, sometimes it is good to have pitchers experience some adversity before turning their careers around. A bunch of the pitchers on the Tigers 119 loss team of 2003 wound up on the 2006 AL Champs.



5) EVERYONE SEEMS TO BE ON THE SAME PAGE

I made fun of the firing of Gary Varsho and Joe Kerrigan, but maybe there was a bigger point that was being made. They were evidently undermining manager John Russell, and their dismissal is a key sign that this is Russell's team on the field. Maybe with a cooperative bench coach and pitching coach there can be more cohesion. Maybe a solid pitching coach will get the most out of the staff and the bench coach will help instead of hinder the manager's POV. Either way it shows the Pirates are going in one direction... and hopefully that will be up in the standings.


Look, I'm not going to be Pollyanna and say 2011 will certainly be a turnaround.

But all throughout the 2000s there were teams that finally clicked and had a winning season almost out of the blue.

Did YOU predict the Royals putting a winning team on the field in 2003?
Or the Expos in 2002 and 2003?
Or the Brewers in 2007?

That's not even mentioning the playoff teams like the 2003 World Champion Marlins, the 2006 AL Champion Tigers, the 2007 NL Champion Rockies or the 2008 AL Champion Rays... all who made it to the World Series following year in and year out of mediocrity.

A lot of things have to break the Pirates way just to reach 82-80... but as Mick Shrimpton said in This is Spinal Tap, "The Law of Averages say I will survive."

Some year something will break right in Pittsburgh's favor. The Law of Averages say it must be so.

Maybe 19 will be their lucky number.


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A Note To My Many Irate Pirate Fan Readers

I evidently hit a nerve when I needled the Pirates for firing Joe Kerrigan and Gary Varsho from the coaching staff. Anyone who questions the passion of Pirate fans should take a look at my comments and also my e mail in box.

Pirate passion is alive and well, even if their team isn’t.

Let me say this, my Pirate fan readers, and be as clear as I can be.

I LIKE THE PIRATES.

Besides the Red Sox (my childhood team) and the Giants (my dad’s team) the Pirates are the team I would want to see win the World Series most of all.

I have written about why I like the Pirates… from my memories of the 1979 World Series and their great history.

And I’ve also said that an argument can be made that current Pirate fans are the best and most loyal in baseball, as they have a franchise that has given them NOTHING back in nearly 2 decades.

But I also am tired of the excuses.

Yeah they don’t have deep pockets and they’ve had to shed payroll. And yes, Dave Littlefield was possibly the worst General Manager in baseball history as he traded big leaguer after big leaguer for pennies on the dollar and constantly drafted players based on cost rather than getting the best player into their system.

But guess what? Littlefield has been gone since the end of the 2007 season.

At one point you’ve got to stop blaming the previous administration and demand some results from Neal Huntington.

Yeah, he is doing better than Littlefield in that he has drafted players like Alvarez and McCutchen. Plus taking a chance on Lastings Milledge could pay off. And Ross Ohlendorf has had some nice games.

But he is also the General Manager for the team that as of this writing is the WORST TEAM IN BASEBALL. And the bounty for trades like Jason Bay, Nate McClouth and Freddy Sanchez are still all in the “potential” category a year or more after they were dealt.

And while each of those players have dealt with slumps and injuries since leaving the Pirates, they were PRIME TRADE CHIPS when they were sent on their way.

Who did they get in exchange for them?

Andy LaRoche is a spot starter at first base and hasn't been able to put up any numbers of note.

Charlie Morton... who has been a bust and will be 27 next year, or around the time a player ceases to be a prospect.

Craig Hansen was as much a bust in Pittsburgh as he was in Boston. His career is in danger as injuries has pushed him all the way down to the Florida State League.

Brandon Moss has had a decent year in AAA but at age 26, he is

Bryan Morris has been adequate at AA. He'll be 24 next year and needs to make the jump to AAA.

Jeff Locke has looked good in single A. Forgive me if I don't get excited about him until he sees a big league game.

Gorkys Hernandez is OK... at AA.

Tim Alderson has been a disaster in A and AA with a combined ERA over 6.00.

Why are small market teams like the A’s, the Padres, and the Rays able to get players who can contribute on the big league level when they deal off a player but this ability constantly eludes the Pirates?

Why are teams like Marlins able to consistently put a team above .500 on the team with a smaller payroll and a worse stadium situation?

I am not going to praise GM simply for being better than Littlefield, especially since that assessment is only made on reputation. GMs presiding over the team bound to get the first pick in the amateur draft shouldn’t have adulation showered on them. They should be wondering if they have a job next year.

As for the criticism of Kerrigan and Varsho being canned, I will take a little step back from my original criticism… but not THAT much.

I remember Kerrigan being Dan Duquette’s pick to replace Jimy Williams in 2001 and Derek Lowe saying something like “Now the whole team will see what a prick he is.” Then again, as much as I love Lowe, he seemed to have issues.

And evidently Gary Varsho wasn’t a popular guy in the clubhouse. But when you are the worst team in the game, are you really allowed to be picky on your coaches.

That being said, it seems like they were also undermining manager John Russell and the dumping of these two is a commitment to Russell as manager.

Alrighty… better get some results.

If the Pirates put a winning team on the field, I will be the FIRST person to praise them. The Pirates should be one of the proud franchises and Pittsburgh fans, who had a lot to cheer for recently with the Steelers and Penguins’ titles, should be loving the Pirates.

It’s going to be 18 years this year and it will probably be 19 years in 2011 since Sid Bream slid across homeplate.

Now things could be changing, especially next spring when they will have a top 3 pick in the Draft and maybe get the ace the pitching staff so desperately needs.

But once again, it all is potential.

As someone who likes the Pirates, I am tired of potential. I want to see results too.

There are other bad teams that I don’t care about.
The Diamondbacks can keep losing for all I care.
I have no love lost for the Orioles… or the Royals… or the Nats… or the Mets.

If those teams turn it around, fine. I can be intrigued by a comeback story.
But they don’t intrigue me.

The Pirates do.

Now I know it can suck to hear someone outside your fan base saying this and it isn’t anything you’ve haven’t thought yourself.

But I WANT a higher number in the Pirates W column… starting tonight against San Diego.

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