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Sully Baseball Salutes... Chris Resop and the Pirates bullpen
























I am guessing not a lot of you watched the Pirates - Rockies game last night. PNC Park wasn't exactly standing room only and the two teams are not the most popular in the bigs.

21 Rockies played. 20 Pirates played. With 41 players putting this game on the Baseball Reference page, I am frankly surprised that the Pirates didn't have the Parrot warming up.

Pirate manager (and former Rockies manager) Clint Hurdle out managed Rockies manager (and former Pirates manager) Jim Tracy as Jose Tabata drove in the winning run in the 14th.

While you may not have seen the game, it is worth a salute. Not because it will affect the pennant race or be in the next Ken Burns entry.

But the Pirates bullpen was pressed into service early as Ross Ohlendorf lasted only 2 2/3 innings.

How did they respond?
Jeff Karstens, Michael Crotta, Jose Veras, Joel Hanrahan, Chris Resop and Garrett Olson combined to go 11 1/3 scoreless innings.

The likes of Troy Tulowitzki and Carlos Gonzalez were in the lineup. So was Jason Giambi who homered off of Ohlendorf.

None of those pitchers are on anyone's short list for Cy Young contenders. And yet they did their job big time. In fact, according to Bucs Insider, it was the longest shutout bullpen outing since 1900.

How long ago was that?
There was no American League yet when that happened.

Karstens pitched 3 1/3 innings starting in the 3rd. But I am making a special salute to Resop.
He came into the game in the 10th inning and looked shaky. He let up a double and a wild pitch and had the bases loaded. But he wiggled out by getting out Ty Wigginton.

He pitched a scoreless 11th and 12th inning, giving the Pirates 3 shutout innings AFTER the ninth.

He will not get a win for his effort. Olson got the win after 2 shutout innings.
He will not get a save for his effort nor a hold.

But he has earned a salute here for a terrific effort.

If Pirates players like Chris Resop just do their job like they did last night, the Pirates may win a few more games.

If they go 77-77 the rest of the way, then will have a winning season. And the key to a winning season is doing the little things right.

Good job Chris Resop and the pen.
Now do that 77 more times.
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Coaches looking for their first ring










When the World Series is over each year, we recognize that the players on the team have their World Series rings... and accomplished the great goal that every player wants to achieve.

And the managers as well are praised for reaching the promised land.

But what about the coaching staff?
A lot of times you see long time veterans win their first ever World Series ring as a player.

I remember Harold Baines, who meant as much to the White Sox as any player over the last few decades, hold up the World Series trophy in 2005... a World Champion finally after 20+ years not winning one as a player.

Long time veteran Chris Speier won his as a coach with the 2001 Diamondbacks. Tony Pena finally got his with the 2009 Yankees.

That got me thinking... what other coaches are there in the post season who were big leaguers and never won a ring?

It's fun to think about the veterans like Jim Thome and Aubrey Huff finally getting a shot at a ring during their playing days... but who is getting a shot at their rings after they've ended their careers.

So these are the coaches on the current playoff teams who were former big leaguers and never won a ring as a player, manager or coach.

I am not including managers on this list. It should be noted that Ron Washington of the Rangers and Bruce Bochy of the Giants are the only playoff managers without a ring.

Joe Girardi, Dusty Baker, Ron Gardenhire, Bobby Cox, Joe Maddon and Charlie Manuel have all won rings as either a player, coach or manager.




Brook Jacoby

11 big league seasons.

2 All Star appearances.

No post season experience as a player.







Pete Mackanin

9 big league seasons

No post season experience as a player.










Tim Flannery

11 big league seasons.

Appeared in 1984 NLCS and World Series for the Padres.








Mark Gardner

13 big league seasons.

Appeared in the 2000 Division Series for the Giants.







Roberto Kelly

14 big league seasons.

2 All Star appearances.

Appeared in the 1995 Division Series for the Dodgers.
The 1997 Division Series for the Mariners.
The 1998 and 1999 Division Series for the Rangers.



Hensley Meulens

7 big league seasons.

No post season experience as a player.







Dave Righetti

16 big league seasons.

2 All Star appearances.

1981 AL Rookie of the Year.

Appeared in 1981 Divisional Series, ALCS and World Series for the Yankees.




Ron Wotus

2 big league seasons.

No post season experience as a player.








Glenn Hubbard

12 big league seasons.

1 All Star appearances.

Appeared in the 1982 NLCS for the Braves.
The 1988 World Series for the A's.





Terry Pendleton

15 big league seasons.

1All Star appearance.

1991 NL MVP.

Appeared in the 1985 NLCS and World Series for the Cardinals.
1987 NLCS and World Series for the Cardinals.
1991 NLCS and World Series for the Braves.
1992 NLCS and World Series for the Braves.
1993 NLCS for the Braves.
1996 Division Series, NLCS and World Series for the Braves.





Andy Hawkins

10 big league seasons.

Appeared in the 1984 NLCS and World Series for the Padres.







Clint Hurdle

10 big league seasons.

Appeared in the 1978 ALCS for the Royals.
The 1980 ALCS and World Series for the Royals.
The 1981 Divisional Series for the Royals.






Mike Maddux

15 big league seasons.

Appeared in the 1995 Division Series for the Red Sox.








Gary Pettis

11 big league seasons.

Appeared in the 1986 ALCS for the Angels.










Rick Stelmaszek

3 big league seasons.

No post season experience as a player.








Scott Ullger

1 big league season.

No post season experience as a player.








Jerry White

11 big league seasons.

Appeared in the 1981 Divisional Series and NLCS for the Expos.










Tom Foley

13 big league seasons.

No post season experience as a player.








Dave Martinez

2 big league seasons.


Appeared in the 2001 Division Series and NLCS for the Braves.







The entire coaching staff of the Yankees got rings last year. That's why they are not included here.

So I am not sure how much of a factor it would be to want a coach to win a ring. I can't imagine many out there are thinking "I hope the Rangers win it for Gary Pettis!"

But know there are some coachs who are going to be savoring a title as much as the players!

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2007 was a long long time ago























In 2007, the Rockies, Diamondbacks and Indians were all in the League Championship Series.

Each had young hungry teams filled with terrific talent and seemed to be poised to contend for many years to come.

And each had a steady manager at the helm. Clint Hurdle with the Rockies, Bob Melvin with the Diamondbacks and Eric Wedge with the Indians.

So how did it work out?

Well with today's firing of Eric Wedge, all three managers have been fired less than 2 years after their improbable LCS berth.

It's sobering, especially when you think about teams that are trying to build something positive for the long term, knowing that you don't even get 2 years credit for a solid and unexpected finish.

But as I said about the Rays at the end of last year, it's dangerous to try and predict who will have long term success.

Managers who should not feel too comfortable in their job

A few weeks ago I was going to write a blog post about which managers I thought were in trouble of getting the axe... but I thought it was too soon.

Then the Diamondbacks fired the 2007 Manager of the Year Bob Melvin in order to bring up A. J. Hinch to the helm after managing zero games at any level.

While that hiring might seem odd, the timing didn't. The Diamondbacks are loaded with young talent but got off to a .414 start.

And with Manny out for a while, the D'Backs felt that now was the time to make a change.

The D'Backs are now 2-6 under Hinch and have sunk 10 games back in the loss column to L.A. I'm sure they were hoping for a little better bump in the standings than that.

There are some managers whose jobs might still be on the line, and others whose jobs might have been saved by recent winning streaks.

There was a sense of abject panic in New York (as I wrote, part of it from a collective amnesia). But the recent 6 game winning streak has brought not only a little joy in the Yankee clubhouse (and made A-Rod suddenly the most popular Yankee without a worry in the world) but also took the heat off of Joe Girardi (at least until the next losing streak.)

And last night's 5 error fiasco not withstanding, the Mets have climbed back into the race and Jerry Manuel's job seems safe (at least until June.)

So whose head will roll next?

The staff at Sully Baseball has some thoughts on the matter.


BOB GEREN, Oakland A's

The A's did extend his contract this spring as a vote of confidence. Billy Beane actually went out and acquired players like Holliday, Giambi and Cabrera and the Angels stumbled out of the gate with injuries and tragedy.

And your pal Sully drank the Kool Aid like nobody's business!

And how did the A's respond? By playing .371 baseball. They are on pace to lose 100 games and have been blown out of the water in this recent road trip.

The scores reflect a team that is overmatched. 14-1, 9-1, 11-7 (remember they were up 6-0 in the second inning in that game) and yesterday's 13-4 disaster to Tampa.

I can't imagine the A's front office is too happy. And after years of being a perrenial contender no matter the budget, Geren finished sub .500 in each of the last two years and seems to be running the team into the ground.


BUD BLACK, San Diego Padres

Frankly, I can't believe he still has a job. Nothing against Harry Ralston Black, who I am sure is an astute baseball man.

But how someone can take a team that always seems to contend, have them miss the playoffs his first year, become a 99 loss team the next and seem destined to have another losing season this year and not be checking Craigslist for a new gig?

The Padres got off to a surprising start and were 6 games over .500 on April 18. They are 7-19 since, and that's including the three game sweep of the Reds this weekend.

They are a losing streak away from a fire sale. And Black should call his old buddy Mike Scioscia to see if his old pitching coach job is available.



CLINT HURDLE, Colorado Rockies

I know, I know... how can Clint Hurdle be in trouble? He led the Rockies to their lone World Series appearance!

Let's take a close look at his managerial career.

Yes, the Rockies went on their amazing run starting midway through September of 2007 and rode it all the way to the National League pennant.

But let's look a little closer at his managerial record, shall we?

He took over the Rockies from Buddy Bell 22 games into the 2002 season. They had a losing record that year. They also had losing records in 2003, 2004, 2005 and 2006. And after winning the pennant in 2007, they had a losing record in 2008 and are on pace to go 63-99 this year.

So in 7 plus seasons, he has delivered 6 lackluster losing seasons and a 530-619 record.

Not counting the last 2 weeks of 2007, he has led the Rockies to a .455 winning percentage and 100 games under .500 over 7 plus seasons.

It might be time to realize that two week run and pennant drive was a fluke.


ERIC WEDGE, Cleveland Indians

2009 has not been kind to managers who had success in 2007.

The NL Manager of the Year Bob Melvin was canned. I am calling for the head of the manager of the 2007 NL Champion Rockies and the manager of the Padres, a team that made it to a one game playoff in 2007.

So why not give the 2007 AL Manager of the Year the Robespierre treatment?

After winning 96 games in 2007 and being one jaw droppingly stupid third base coach decision away from tying Game 7 of the ALCS in the 7th inning, the Indians were supposed to be a World Series contender in 2008.

Instead they scrambled to .500. This year they were supposed to be contenders, only now they can't seem to get out of their own way.

They've had no winning streak longer than 2 and can not put away series.

Perhaps Wedge can take heart that the Cavaliers run to the NBA Finals will take a little heat off of the Indians (and the Browns for that matter) in terms of delivering a title to Cleveland. But this talented group might need some new direction... or start the fire sale.


OZZIE GUILLEN, Chicago White Sox

Now mind you I am not saying Ozzie should be fired. I am a confirmed Ozzie Guillen fan. We need more managers who are actually, you know... fun!

And I think his winning the 2005 World Series so convincingly without a Hall of Famer in his lineup (Frank Thomas was hurt) and without an MVP nor Cy Young winner on the roster is one of the great managing jobs of the last few decades.

Plus he has delivered 4 winning teams in his first 5 seasons plus another trip to the playoffs last year. He has changed the culture in the South Side and turned the White Sox from an after thought to the team that can actually WIN in Chicago.

So why is he in trouble?

Well, there are opera singers who would call him a diva. Plus he threatens to quit every 10 minutes. His crazy act looks inspired when the team is winning, but when they are losing I am sure it gets tiring.

And the Sox are in the middle of a 5 game slide right now and letting a winnable AL Central slip away. One of these days Ozzie might go into Kenny Williams' office and say "I quit!"

And Kenny might say "OK."

I don't want him to, but he might.


MANNY ACTA, Washington Nationals

Earlier this year, I made fun of the notion of Acta being fired, as if this train wreck of a team was his fault.

Now I am not so sure.

Acta's career mark is 143-217. That's a .397 winning percentage over 2 1/4 seasons.

And this team looks like it could be one of those spectacularly bad teams.

It's not just that they are on pace to go 49-113 (10 games WORSE than last year's 59-102 finish).

It's not just they are in their second five game slide of the season and have had three other 3 game skids.

But they just play a horrific brand of baseball. Their bullpen blows games... their bats go dead... they make bonehead plays in the field... and evidently they aren't even taking infield before the game.

Yeah because when you need to have a big finish to win 60 games, you've earned the right to kick your feet up.

Now if the plan is to get the #1 pick over all in back to back seasons, then hang up the Mission Accomplished banner!

But if the Nationals want to start filling those empty red seats in their beautiful new ballpark, maybe a sacrificial lamb is in order.




Now will ALL SIX of these guys be out of a job?
Probably not, but no doubt there will be a job vacancy this year. And as last year's bizarre firing of Ned Yost showed it is never too late to fire a manager.

All I can say is this to the teams thinking about a managerial change... would it KILL you to interview Chris Chambliss????